Noteworthy Hand 2.0
Today’s noteworthy hand once again comes from a recent session at the 8-16 table.
A middle position player, Player A, opens the pot for a raise. Player A is very aggressive, but I wouldn’t classify him as a maniac. He raises pre-flop quite frequently, often with weaker than average holdings. But he is not an idiot. He can get away from a hand, and plays very solid post-flop.
The action folds to me on the button. I have A-Q of diamonds. In my mind, this is a pretty clear three-bet. Player A has shown the propensity to raise pre-flop with hands as soft as A-3 suited, or K-10. There is a very good chance I have the best hand, and I’d like to take control of the pot, and possibly get heads-up. The big-blind, Player B, calls the three-bets. Player A then makes it four-bets! At this point, I don’t much care for my hand, but have no choice but to call. He could, of course, have a hand like J-J, or 10-10, but almost all four-betting hands have me crushed. Player B also calls the fourth bet.
The flop comes Q-7-3 with two spades. Player B checks. Player A bets. I think for a moment, and decide to raise. I want to establish my hand, possibly give myself a chance to check a later street if I think I’m beat, and also get a better read on Player A’s hand, based on how he reacts to my raise. Player B once again calls both bets cold, and action is back to Player A, who thinks for a moment, and re-raises! Dernit! I call, as does Player B. I am relatively certain Player B is on a spade draw.
The turn is a total blank, the 2 of clubs. Player B checks once again, and Player A bets once again. This is where I really need to contemplate what to do. The river is an easy decision if I decide to call the turn, as the pot will already be large enough in size to where I’ll need to call one-bet for a showdown every single time. Here is where the decision is made. I have top-pair with top-kicker, and feel there’s no way it can be good. What could he be juicing the action with so hard? A-K of spades seemed less likely, because, as I said, I was almost sure Player B had a flush draw. Would he be so aggressive with a hand like J-J or 10-10? Probably not. He could have the same hand as me, but that isn’t overwhelmingly likely.
I decide to fold.
Player B calls. The river is the 2 of hearts, and Player B once again checks. Player A fires a third bullet, and Player B folds. Player A flashed his hand to the man next to him, threw it in the muck, and raked the pot.
I’m almost certain it was A-A or K-K. Did I make a terrible fold?








August 20th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I think you played it perfectly on all streets. Although we should never admit to anyone at the table that we can fold tptk on the turn.
JT
August 21st, 2010 at 8:32 pm
here is what i’ve always said: if all you have is top pair top kick, and there are non-desperate players that are willing to go broke against you, then you HIGHLY more than likely do not have the best hand.
Obviously there are certain exceptions to this, like being heads up, or a player that is short stacked shoving, or a total aggro out of his mind maniac.
For the most part though, against level headed thinking players who have no reason to be getting out of line or going nuts, your top/top is usually no good.
I’ve saved so much money with AQ AJ top/top situations just by remembering this, primarily in NLHE situations. But the same still applies to FLHE.
August 27th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
If you think you’re beat, then fold ‘em. But what ever happened to “show one, show all?” btw that pile of $Z in the illo is worth about half a cent US.