MNPokerMag (MPM): So you’ve now won, in about a year, an HPT and now an MSPT event, talk about the significance of that for you.
Matt Hyland (MH): It means a lot. I’m really pumped about the bracelet. Poker has been treating me very well the last year and a half or so with two championship titles under my belt and a few other real deep cashes. Hopefully this will continue to take me somewhere from a poker career standpoint, maybe catch on with a sponsor to play in some larger buy-in events if I can capture another title or two.
(MPM): You’re one of the very few in the area now who have been able to capture multiple titles in a major event, Dresch is another that comes to mind. Is competing with the elite players and having your name in that mix something you think about and focus on?
(MH): Yes definitely. I’ve always strived to be one of those players. I think I’m definitely one of those players that is one to reckon with. One of my best tournaments was down in Vegas at the HPT Red Rock last January. I took 7th which some wouldn’t necessarily think much of but that was against 464 players who were not slouches. There were several considered to be the best of the best, several TV pros. (Hyland scored $13K for that cash)
(MPM): When you sit here, obviously in front of $39,000 and look back at the success you’ve had in this last 13 months or so, do you ever think to yourself it would be nice to just not go to work tomorrow and do this full time? Or is it always you want that security of a job?
(MH): Of course it would be nice to be able to do this full time. I would love to do that. But I also understand that there’s a lot of variance and it takes a large bankroll realistically if you don’t have sponsors paying for all your tournaments. There’s a lot of travel and buy-ins, I’d probably need a couple million before I’d think about doing that.
(MPM): So what’s the game plan now?
(MH): I don’t know, I have to go to work Monday. Getting pretty busy there, back to the grind. Obviously I’ll be at Canterbury in a couple weeks to defend my title. I’ll continue to hit up the MSPT events and the HPT events as well and probably the bigger tournaments in the area.
(MPM): Do you study material or other players or look up to any players that are noteworthy or do you have your own style? Everett Carlton told me once he doesn’t talk to anybody about poker, he doesn’t read books, he just plays and keeps it all to himself.
(MH): Its sort of a mix. I’ve read a couple books and I’ve listened to a few audio books on poker but for the most part my first five years of playing I’ve stuck to my own and stuck to my basics until I found a good game that was working. Books are helpful but they are also only one person’s opinion and its based on a style that works well for them.
(MPM): Is there anything in your game that you’re doing differently now in the last 13 months that you weren’t doing previously? Something to take your game to the next level?
(MH): Not really anything specific. I think in a lot of the bigger tournaments I was just getting unlucky, I would get one or three-outted. It was just bad beats that was taking me out of them. Finally last September things just sorta turned and started going my way.
(MPM): Now that you’ve been on top, you’ve got the bankroll and the confidence in your game, do you feel like that feeds off itself to create more success? Do you follow through on your reads more now than you use to?
(MH): The key for me, I feel, is that I’ve traveled around a lot more, played a lot more places, more states. You get to see a lot of different styles and players. This has helped me improve my game by being able to read different types of players better. I’m not playing against the same people every day like in a home game or a local, weekly tournament. You can pick up quite a bit from strangers.
I also try to take the money perspective out of it. I get in the mindset that I’m just trying to win a tournament for first place. I know other players often think about their bank account more than their chips, especially when you get down to the last 3-4 places where all the money is. I try to take advantage of that.
(MPM): When you go back and compare and contrast this win tonight and your win at the HPT, what are some of the differences, how you got to the championship?
(MH): I always have a mindset that I’m going to be winning the thing. I play for first. In the HPT tournament near the end, it was more or less a crapshoot tournament because of the blinds. The table was playing really tight similar to here when we were at 9 or 10 players. In this tourney (MSPT) we played at 9 and 10 players for probably three hours and didn’t lose a single player. In the Heartland’s history, they are one of the largest blinds compared to the size of the field so a huge amount of your chips were going in. Here I always had a good stack, wasn’t necessarily chip leader but wasn’t far behind.
I had a couple of key moments during the final table here after the dinner break that really paid off. The lady kind of short-shoved but over-shoved. Because I had a good stack it was an easy call with JJ. From there I picked up KK under the gun, did my standard bet and Pete, who had a nice stack three-bet. I shoved and he folded QQ but I picked up a large pot. Then the 9-seat had a monster stack and was going over the top of everybody. He thought the other guy was weak and probably felt he could get me off of my hand to isolate heads up and have a coin flip at worst, likely putting me on 55 or 66. I ended up having KK and it held up. From there it was downhill.
(MPM): In this tournament, more than most final tables, there were a lot of top end players. Lance, Everett, Pete, Dresch was in it deep, etc. All players at the top of their game. The entire field in general was pretty strong. To weave your way through that final table, that’s gotta be a sweat?
(MH): Yeah it was a pretty good sweat. There were a couple players I had figured out more than others. Some of the real good players try to mix up their game more and not try to be as predictable which makes it tough. I was fortunate that some of the players I had a better read on were taking chips off the less predictable players. So that was one thing that was also helping me a little cause then I could take the chips off of them